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jose004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 16:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

FullTiltPoker Game #3221449251: Table Las Flores - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:14:34 ET - 2007/08/11
Seat 1: CrownD ($0), is sitting out
Seat 2: Trelogavros ($29.75)
Seat 3: joeysmykid ($46.20)
Seat 4: Texas_Crossfire ($50), is sitting out
Seat 5: 1kfa ($26.90)
Seat 6: The Bopper44 ($40.15)
Seat 7: Jordie23 ($5.75)
Seat 8: jose005 ($51.55)
Seat 9: agrume ($65.70)
Jordie23 posts the small blind of $0.25
jose005 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jose005 [3 Karo 8 Karo ]
agrume calls $0.50
Trelogavros folds
joeysmykid calls $0.50
1kfa calls $0.50
The Bopper44 calls $0.50
Jordie23 folds
CrownD adds $20
CrownD has returned
jose005 checks
*** FLOP *** [J Herz 8 Herz 3 Pik ]
jose005 has 15 seconds left to act
Trelogavros is sitting out
jose005 has timed out
jose005 checks
agrume checks
joeysmykid checks
1kfa bets $4
The Bopper44 folds
jose005 has 15 seconds left to act
jose005 raises to $14.75
agrume has 15 seconds left to act
Jordie23 adds $8
agrume folds
joeysmykid folds
1kfa raises to $26.40, and is all in
jose005 calls $11.65
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 17:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Je nach villain bin ich geneigt Bottom Two zu folden. Da das Board drawy ist und die Möglichkeit besteht gute Draws zu pushen, haben wir aber nen Call @hand.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 18:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

bei den odds is des für mich n easy call
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 19:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

habe ihn nur TP gegeben er war auch short stake!

1kfa shows [A Kreuz J Karo ]
jose005 shows [3 Karo 8 Karo ]
*** TURN *** [J Herz 8 Herz 3 Pik ] [A Herz ]
*** RIVER *** [J Herz 8 Herz 3s A Herz ] [T Pik ]
1kfa shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
jose005 shows two pair, Eights and Threes
1kfa wins the pot ($52.80) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $55.55 | Rake $2.75
Board: [J Herz 8 Herz 3 Pik A Herz T Pik ]
Seat 1: CrownD is sitting out
Seat 2: Trelogavros didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: joeysmykid folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Texas_Crossfire is sitting out
Seat 5: 1kfa showed [A Kreuz J Karo ] and won ($52.80) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 6: The Bopper44 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Jordie23 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jose005 (big blind) showed [3 Karo 8 Karo ] and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes
Seat 9: agrume folded on the Flop
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 23:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrrrrrrrrrrr!so ein scheiß!!!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 23:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Die Hand passt wohl besser ins Bad Beat Forum? Die Hand davor eigentlich auch, aber egal...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 00:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ist nicht wirklich ein Bad Beat, weil er ja von Anfang an die schlechtere Hand gehalten hat.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hellsing38 wrote:
Ist nicht wirklich ein Bad Beat, weil er ja von Anfang an die schlechtere Hand gehalten hat.


Ob Bad Beat oder Cooler macht für mich keinen Unterschied.

Nur in diesem Forum sollen in erster Linie Hände diskutiert werden und bei der Hand gibt es nich viel zu diskutieren.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 20:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Game #4470580583: Hold'em NL ($0.50/$1) - 2007/09/01 - 16:15:14 (UK)
Table "RivaRidge" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: jose004 ($38.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Lapdog915 ($124.77 in chips)
Seat 3: Moldey ($95.50 in chips)
Seat 4: lude2007 ($17.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Klaptorsk ($126.55 in chips)
Seat 7: Joh290472 ($64.70 in chips)
Seat 8: Fiskars ($44.35 in chips)
Seat 10: fako ($72.60 in chips)
lude2007: posts small blind $0.50
Klaptorsk: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to jose004 [Q Pik Q Karo ]
Joh290472: folds
Fiskars: calls $1
fako: folds
jose004: raises to $4
Lapdog915: calls $4
Moldey: folds
lude2007: folds
Klaptorsk: folds
Fiskars: calls $3
----- FLOP ----- [2 Pik K Karo 5 Pik ]
Fiskars: checks
jose004: bets $5
Lapdog915: calls $5
Fiskars: folds
----- TURN ----- [2 Pik K Karo 5 Pik ][9 Karo ]
jose004: checks
Lapdog915: checks
----- RIVER ----- [2 Pik K Karo 5 Pik 9 Karo ][8 Kreuz ]
jose004: bets $4
Lapdog915: raises to $10
jose004???????????
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 21:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reads? Stats?

Seine Line macht so keinen Sinn. Mit nem Set muss er den Turn eigentlich betten, wegen der zwei Flush Draws. Und er muss den Pot ja anwachsen lassen, wenn du nen K haben solltest.

Vieleicht hat er dich auch dem Flop auch mit 88 gecallt, da er denkt, dass du hier hin und wieder nicht getroffen hast. Wie weit ist deine Range nach einem Limper aus MP?
Allerdings frage ich mich, opber er mit 88 nicht den Turn betten müsste, einerseits um vieleicht FE gegen TT, JJ oder so zu haben, anderer seits um sich gegen Overpairs. zu verteidigen. Auch n K muss er wegen dem FD eigentlich betten.

Den River calle ich, da seine Line nicht sehr viel Sinn macht und unser Bet weak wirkt. Oder vbettest du hier öfters so klein und kannst es dir daher erlauben hier zu blocken? Wobei ich mich Frage, ob wir hier tatsächlich einen Bluff von ihm verhindern wollen.

Gegen einen moderat aggressiven kann man den River auch check/call spielen, da der Flush Draw nicht angekommen ist. Allerdings kommt das vermutlich nicht gut, wenn er viele seiner Kings bettet. Was er allerdings nur tun wird, wenn er denkt, dass wir mit nem Second Pair auch callen.

Aber wie gesagt, seine Line ist so seltsam, da würde ich wohl callen. Wenn er 88 haben sollte, gg me.
Auch wenn ich vorher nen größeren Block spielen würde, wenn überhaupt. So 1/3 bis 1/2 des Pots sollte es schon sein. 1/4 mag auch noch diskutabel sein, mehr weniger ist aber imo zu dünn.

Und was steht hinter deinem kleinen Flop Bet? Wenn ich hier bette, bette ich 3/4 Pot.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 21:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

is 1/2 pot bet standart conti!

stats von ihm 235 hände
ist ein engländer

VP$IP 34,47
AP 9,3
ASF 19,07
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 21:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

~ 3,5:1 odds - kann man callen - kann man folden.

stats? river af? :O

blufft er als - call
blufft er nie - fold :-/
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 21:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

went to SD 27,63%
won $ to SD 52,38%
PF raise 8,51
PFAF 0,30
flop AF 0,89
Turn 0,92
River AF 6
Total AF 0,57
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 21:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

river af is ja höher als bei mir :O

dann is river - meiner Meinung nach - n easy call.

Außerdem - interesant was er so spielt :-/

Turn is eigentlich n have to bet - besonders mit ner Hand die den river raised :S
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 21:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

denke mein 4$ waren zu wenig 10$ sein müssen!er blufft mich mit Ace high!
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