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Warum Slowplay mit AK keine gute Idee ist

 
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Sabre66
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 23:01    Post subject: Warum Slowplay mit AK keine gute Idee ist Reply with quote

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Hand #39413765-7807 at Acre (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 11/Feb/07 12:09:06

sabre66 is at seat 0 with $26.58.
loetphil is at seat 1 with $28.09.
alcyon is at seat 2 with $33.07.
AwesomeAli is at seat 3 with $20.02.
MaPaKettle is at seat 4 with $21.42.
bigslick526 is at seat 5 with $7.34.
snacho23 is at seat 6 with $7.63.
alienatedone is at seat 7 with $23.83.
muz1 is at seat 8 with $15.79.
terrre03 is at seat 9 with $11.45.
The button is at seat 2.

AwesomeAli posts the small blind of $.10.
MaPaKettle posts the big blind of $.25.

sabre66: Js Tc
loetphil: -- --
alcyon: -- --
AwesomeAli: -- --
MaPaKettle: -- --
bigslick526: -- --
snacho23: -- --
alienatedone: -- --
muz1: -- --
terrre03: -- --

Pre-flop:

bigslick526 calls. snacho23 folds. alienatedone
folds. muz1 folds. terrre03 folds. sabre66 calls.
loetphil calls. alcyon calls. AwesomeAli folds.
MaPaKettle checks.

Flop (board: Qd Kd Ac):

MaPaKettle checks. bigslick526 bets $1.35. sabre66
raises to $3. loetphil folds. alcyon folds.
MaPaKettle folds. bigslick526 goes all-in for $7.09.
sabre66 calls.

Turn (board: Qd Kd Ac Ah):

(no action in this round)


River (board: Qd Kd Ac Ah Ad):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

bigslick526 shows As Kc.
bigslick526 has As Kc Ac Ah Ad: four aces.
sabre66 mucks cards.
(sabre66 has Js Tc.)


Hand #39413765-7807 Summary:

$.62 is raked from a pot of $15.53.
bigslick526 wins $14.91 with four aces.


Hat er hier noch Glück, weil er seinen 4-Outer trifft (und das richtig), verliert er das Ganze nur wenige Hände später wieder an mich:

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Hand #39413765-7814 at Acre (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 11/Feb/07 12:14:27

sabre66 is at seat 0 with $18.89.
alcyon is at seat 2 with $33.15.
AwesomeAli is at seat 3 with $19.67.
MaPaKettle is at seat 4 with $20.17.
bigslick526 is at seat 5 with $16.06.
snacho23 is at seat 6 with $8.69.
alienatedone is at seat 7 with $23.58.
Fasthand is at seat 8 with $9.75.
terrre03 is at seat 9 with $11.10.
The button is at seat 0.

alcyon posts the small blind of $.10.
AwesomeAli rejects big blind.
MaPaKettle posts the big blind of $.25.

sabre66: Ac As
alcyon: -- --
MaPaKettle: -- --
bigslick526: -- --
snacho23: -- --
Fasthand: -- --
terrre03: -- --

Pre-flop:

bigslick526 calls. snacho23 folds. Fasthand folds.
terrre03 folds. sabre66 raises to $.75. alcyon
folds. MaPaKettle calls. bigslick526 calls.

Flop (board: 4c Ad Jc):

MaPaKettle checks. bigslick526 bets $2.35. sabre66
raises to $4.70. MaPaKettle folds. bigslick526 goes
all-in for $15.31. sabre66 calls.

Turn (board: 4c Ad Jc 8h):

(no action in this round)


River (board: 4c Ad Jc 8h 3s):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

bigslick526 shows Ks Ah.
bigslick526 has Ks Ah Ad Jc 8h: a pair of aces.
sabre66 shows Ac As.
sabre66 has Ac As Ad Jc 8h: three aces.


Hand #39413765-7814 Summary:

$1.30 is raked from a pot of $32.97.
sabre66 wins $31.67 with three aces.
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Gruffi
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 06:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

ak slow zu spielen ist einfach schlecht, da AK einfach keine monsterhand ist und quasi geschlagen ist wenn kein A oda K im flop ist. und selbst dann isses nicht sicher das man die beste hand hält.

wobei ich generell nix von slowplay halte. ich finde es immer geil wenn sich gegner aufregen die AA slowspielen und von meinen suited 78 gerupft werden. hätten sie geraist vor dem flop, hätten sie gewonnen, bzw nix verloren
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 07:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Höh? Bin ich zu dumm, oder passt der Titel des Topics nicht wirlich zum inhalt? Hat doch keiner ein Fehler gemacht... Rolling Eyes
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stone77
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 09:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

naja der hat halt beide Male AK Preflop "nur" gecallt anstatt mit einem Raise eine starke Hand zu repräsentieren. Postflop ging das, denke ich, in Ordnung.
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IneffableKoD
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 01:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hier mal n Beispiel wie man AK sicher nicht spielt (seh ich so oft, sogar îm CG...)

Stage #679402996 Tourney ID 60558 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $100 - 2007-03-16 12:29:21 (ET)
Table: 12397750 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 1 - POKERBUMMER ($2550 in chips)
Seat 2 - BEERMAN88 ($1200 in chips)
Seat 3 - FARVEBESTQB ($1905 in chips)
Seat 5 - INEFFABLEKOD ($1735 in chips)
Seat 7 - POMADA ($1435 in chips)
Seat 8 - BESTCHEF1 ($1520 in chips)
Seat 9 - VYGO13 ($3155 in chips)
FARVEBESTQB - Posts small blind $50
INEFFABLEKOD - Posts big blind $100
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to INEFFABLEKOD [4h 4c]
POMADA - Calls $100
BESTCHEF1 - Folds
VYGO13 - Raises $300 to $300
POKERBUMMER - Folds
BEERMAN88 - Folds
FARVEBESTQB - Folds
INEFFABLEKOD - Calls $200
POMADA - Calls $200
*** FLOP *** [4d 9d Jd]
INEFFABLEKOD - Checks
POMADA - Checks
VYGO13 - Bets $400
INEFFABLEKOD - Raises $900 to $900
POMADA - Folds
VYGO13 - Raises $1400 to $1800
INEFFABLEKOD - All-In $535
VYGO13 - returned ($365) : not called
*** TURN *** [4d 9d Jd] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [4d 9d Jd 5h] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
INEFFABLEKOD - Shows [4h 4c] (Three of a kind, fours)
VYGO13 - Shows [Ac Ks] (ace high)
INEFFABLEKOD Collects $3820 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($3820)
Board [4d 9d Jd 5h Qd]
Seat 1: POKERBUMMER Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: BEERMAN88 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: FARVEBESTQB (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: INEFFABLEKOD (big blind) won Total ($3820) All-In HI:($3820) with Three of a kind, fours [4h 4c - P4h,B4d,P4c,BQd,BJd]
Seat 7: POMADA Folded on the FLOP
Seat 8: BESTCHEF1 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: VYGO13 HI:lost with ace high [Ac Ks - PAc,PKs,BQd,BJd,B9d]
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